So dissapointed with Dynasty Warriors 6...

[shesarebelyell.livejournal.com]

So, I don't know if news has reached everyone here yet, but...

Dynasty Warriors 6 hit shelves today in Hong Kong, and rather than new additions to the character roster, seven characters got the axe. (Six if you don't count Zuo Ci...)

Da Qiao
Xing Cai
Jiang Wei
Pang De
Zhu Rong
Meng Huo
Zuo Ci (We pretty much surmised this, though...)

And only 17/41 remaining characters actually have a Musou Mode. :/

I'm EXTREMELY bummed out, considering Da Qiao was my favorite character in the entire series. -.-; She's pictured in the artwork for Xiao Qiao, who did not get cut, but she's definitely not playable, if she even makes an appearance in the game at all.

Xing Cai seems to have been liquidated entirely, as she's pictured in Zhang Fei's character art work, but as a chubby toddler.

Everyone else is completely MIA.

Here's a link to art book scans for those who are interested.

http://bbs.a9vg.com/read.php?tid=777659&fpage=1&toread=&page=1

Discuss. -.-;;

Comments

[naoe-prodigy.livejournal.com]

D: JIANG WEI?

I wasn't fond of many of the others, though it will be hard to convince my brother to get the game without Pang De. :( That's lame...

[tehseto.livejournal.com]

<sup>Hmm..This is interesting. I didn't exactly expected those characters to be cut. ): -will miss playing as Jiang Wei, a lot-

Well, we'll have to see when we get the game ourselves, mm?

O-Oh my..Zhang He is so beautiful.. @_@;; -joyful for that-</sup>

[geebs.livejournal.com]

I find it very odd they'd only have one of the sisters, it doesn't really make sense to me to only have one of them. I guess they decided to axe Nanman Campaign entirely. Why couldn't they have gotten rid of the Yellow Turban rebellion instead? I mean, who actually likes Zhang Jiao? I can see them getting rid of Jiang Wei, since a lot of the other characters were dead by the time he showed up in the books. But still, I thought he was a fan favorite?

Owel, it looks like they "prettied" most everyone up for dw6. Yue Ying isn't supposed to be this hot chick though. Zhuge Liang married her for her brains, and I thought her old design was appropriate. Her new design is so unlike her. And a lot of the guys look all bishi now. That said, I'm more disappointed in the weapon changes than the design changes, but I guess they really wanted the game to be different from its predecessors.

[stamina.livejournal.com]

I can't get over the new character designs. At all. The only thing I'd hope now is that Sima Yi doesn't get his dubbed voice screwed over as DW5 did a fine job of it.

[moukimokyu.livejournal.com]

I can't get over any of it. The new character designs, the weapons, the cuts (I'm very cut over Jiang Wei and Pang De in particular), any of it. I don't know if I'll be making the investment in this game in too much of a hurry (seeing as I'll be broke by the time it comes to Australia, fair 'nuff). Or at all. Siiiiiiiiiigh.

[alonecone.livejournal.com]

I love how all the characters got new CGs and weapons.
Qiao sisters shouldn't exist in this game if Da Qiao isn't playable at all.

[reihikari.livejournal.com]

Oh lord, I'm hating the new character designs. And is it me or does it seem that they simply swapped weapons for some of the characters? Not looking forward to this AT ALL. >,

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[mister-moshi.livejournal.com]

o...WOW.... they seriously totally changed EVERYTHING O___o;;

a lot of the new character designs bug me. like SSX. WHY DO THEY KEEP WANTING TO TURN HER INTO A HAPPY-GO-LUCKY TOMBOY??? i want my hard-as-nails warrior princess back ;___; and...and the BOW AND ARROW?? WTF. (and they had the nerve to make it YUE YING'S weapon, also??? WTFWTF??). i think they slaughtered Gan Ning's old look T^T ...and Ling Tong looks as gay as ever (they took away my nunchucks. WHY.).

but...some of them do look pretty nifty >_>;; like Zhuge Liang's. and Xiao's. and Diao Chan's new weapon looks like fun.

i noticed Liu Bei looks pretty damn younger in this one. possibly because the SSX-fangirls wanted her to have a prettier man =_=;;

i'm kinda angry right now.... about in as much disbelief as when i found out Nu Wa (my first favorite character) was gone. but that was kinda reasonable.... THIS is...um...just WOW.

[turdburgler.livejournal.com]

Man, everyone's so different now, I hardly know what to say. I still want that artbook, though. Guess it only comes with the treasure box edition of the Japanese/R2 game. Poo.

I've rehosted the scans with the names of the people as the file names so it's easier to tell who is who [ here (http://angband.org/~ryoko/dw6/) ]. (I couldn't get some of the scans to load completely and I figured others couldn't as well. So, obviously, some of the images are half blank. gomen.)

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Much to everyone's dismay I'm sure, but I actually like Zhao Yun and Sun Shang Xiang's new character designs. As long as they keep SSX's personality roughly the same. I hear from geebs that SSX actually used a bow in the RotTK novel, so I guess they're trying to re-align the characters closer to how they're represented in the novel? Especially given how OLD Sun Jian now looks (old, but not bad!).

I'm rather miffed about Cao Pi's new character design. Don't care so much about the new weapon, but I dunno, now he just looks like a bratty kid. :(

Cao Ren just looks silly. Just completely and utterly silly.

I've disliked Zhou Yu's new character design since I first saw it. He looks like a nancy boy now (some of you probably like that kind of thing, I don't particularly). Boo.

As far as Lu Xun goes, I don't dislike his new design as much as Zhou Yu's because Lu Xun honestly looks about the same as his DW5 self except just without his hat, and perhaps slightly older. I will miss the two swords, but dropping it down to one isn't much of a change really. I don't really care that much.

Is Gan Ning related to Maeda Keiji? Not a big fan of the "guys with hair sticking straight up" schtick that the Japanese seem to love so much, for some reason. I'm kind of ambivalent about Gan Ning's new design overall.

Lu Meng I have never liked, his moveset was bad and his character design was forgettable at best. While his character design still kind of stinks, I'm hoping they've at least improved his moveset some.

Huang Gai actually looks better now, imo. 'Course he couldn't have looked much worse than his previous design (hello, I'm from SPARTA! Wait... what?). And when you're at the bottom, you can't go anywhere else but up. Better, better.

Zhou Tai looks about the same, thank god.

Whoa, what happened to Ling Tong?! Totally different! And a pole axe? Hah hah hah. You MUST see this one (http://angband.org/~ryoko/dw6/ling_tong.jpg), if nothing else!

Sun Ce is now a metrosexual Californian academic? And Sun Quan is now Lu Meng? Wait, I'm getting so confused!

Liu Bei is now twelve? x_x

Whoa, Huang Zhong looks AWESOME (http://angband.org/~ryoko/dw6/huang_zhong.jpg) now. Thumbs up on that one at least, koei!

I'm on the fence about the changes to Guan Ping. I liked his previous weapon better, but this one isn't bad. His appearance now conveys almost the same personality and such that his previous one did, except he's more of a pretty boy bishi than a shounen anime hero.

Yuan Shao looks about the same, but has a funny hat now.

Zhang Jiao I couldn't care less about (his character design doesn't look much different, although it now appears that he and the new Guan Yu could be brothers) but at least they changed his weapon. Kind of. I hope his moveset has been improved to where I don't want to bash my head on the coffee table constantly while playing him anymore.

[geebs.livejournal.com]

I think Lu Meng's design is a dramatic improvement. To me, in the previous games, they were kinda going for the scruffy roguish hero kind of look like they had for Magoichi and Sakon, only without their penchant for skirt chasing. But that gold chest plate was kinda lame. I definitely like this look better. Now if they radically rework his moveset, he might just come off my "hate" list.

I'm ambivalent towards Cao Ren's new design. Its a comical exaggeration of what he always was to me in the games- a stocky, heavily armored dwarf. Alas, they had a chance to give him a better weapon here, but they blew it!

Yue Ying, yes, its an aesthetically pleasing design, but to me not "Yue Ying". Not every chick has to be a scantily clad hottie. Girls like her and Ginchiyo were supposed to be the "sensible" ones. Their character designs reflected that by having them in full armor rather than skimpy dresses. You already have Diao Chan, SSX, Zhen Ji, and the Qiaos looking all hot, there's nothing wrong with having a practical girl.

I do not like Wei Yan's new weapon at all. Its a club with a ridiculously huge head. I liked his fighting style in the previous games, acrobatic yet hard-hitting, and with this new weapon, I'm sure he plays a hell of a lot differently now, and not for the better.

I actually like Taishi Ci's design and new weapon. Taishi Ci has always been very generic looking, which is sad, because he's supposed to be one of the bad-asses of RotTK, and to me never reached the level of popularity that the other DW bad-asses have. His new weapon reminds me of Tonbo-Giri, which is cool. But his twin clubs were unique, though his 4th weapon always looked dumb to me.

I don't like Ling Tong or Guan Ping's weapon changes either. I mean, now they're spear guys? There's enough guys using polearms already, what made them unique were their weapons! I like Ling Tongs nunchuks and Guan Ping's big-ass sword. It was different. At least the left Zhou Tai's sword curved, but if he doesn't fight in the iai-jutsu style (I know its not historically/factually accurate, but its cool looking!) I shall be very disappointed.

And I find it weird that they kinda swapped Sun Ce and Sun Jian. Sun Jian always seemed like the more serious one (especially with the Abe Lincoln beard) but now his new design looks closer to Sun Ce's old one, and Sun Ce looks like a young Roman with the hairstyle and armor.

[rezz.livejournal.com]

well, to be honest, i really didn't like any of those who got axed, specially da qiao, those annoying fan girls bugged the hell out of me, specially having to hear her yell in dw3 each time she attacked, i think i have hearing loss

because my brother constantly used her.he didn't like the sister to much but still used her. i personally can't stand overly cute characters getting played because they were cute, I play who was actually useful to me in the heat of combat. I was actually a little wtf over ssx's look and weaponchoice this time around. and a wtf @dian wei using a ball and chain, apparently according to my friend who seems to be way into the whole thing in terms of books and other such things, that historically dian wei's weapons were pang de's?

i dunno anything about it, but i enjoyed the axe... and now this? heh
I couldn't get behind zhu rong to much, she had her moments but annoyed me much

I never understood the point of xian cais weapons, she attacks with a pitch fork and has a shield, but can't block with the thing or run around ramming people with it? but can launch it like a boomerang? design wise i enjoyed her look alot. but ehh.. her weaponset was just..

and yet another excuse to for my brother to pick her
>_> him and his, OMG IT'S A FEMALE *CLICK CLICK!* then to hear him go on and on about this and that while playing as them. then goes about saying to me that i shouldn't underestimate them because they are females, to which i reply, you shouldn't use them because they are females >_>;;. I use who is friggan useful period, it's never been based on gender, specially in the whole warriors games.

If i didn't like there playstyle they didn't get played, but because of him, i'd end up unlocking everyone because he is really slow at the damn thing, and having to go and get everyones 4th friggan weapon and end up lvling 70% of the roster to their max level because he again is slow at this, and for what!? so he could play with like 10 people 8 of them female? and leave me with the rest of the crap... man

i swear... its annoying and prolly one of the reasons i loved orochi so much, you can get a 4th weapon like nothing, and leveling was a breeze and to make things funny >_> those were like the 2 things he didn't like about it =P.

Im sorry but it shouldn't take anyone 3 whole days to max out one character when in 3 whole days i unlocked everyone and maxed out at least 20?

and both putting in the same amount of gametime too.

I don't know if you know anyone like him or are one yourselves, but i swear.. he tries to kill everysingle peoon on the map and you all know it's not required. and this is what takes him so long to actually get anywhere. playing the game is one thing, heck, enjoying the game is one thing, but slowing down my progress because you wanted to kill 5 more peons because they were in your way and still get less exp than i do at the end of thing is just retarded.


yet aside from all my bitching here?
he is still one of my best friends in a sense to play the game with.
since really my actual friends can't stand the game, and i get bored rather fast solo.. it makes it somewhat playable to have him around, reguardless of all the damn annoyances that come with it.

with that aside, Im sorry to those who's characters got axed.
it's funny how the ones i liked over time are still around, but alot of their new looks are really just bad choices imo...
not all of them are bad, but some i didn't reconize at all

and a perfect example if anything was ssx..

[rezz.livejournal.com]

I doubt they would take it away, but it wasn't mentioned at all so I thought i'd ask

Is co-op gameplay still there in dw6? also, is there anyonline capabilities with this like online multiplayer or some type of versus?. I still want to know about dian's weapon thing too.

[kawaiiyume.livejournal.com]

I've actually been wondering about that too. (Co-op)
I haven't heard anyone mention anything either way... I would imagine though there would be at least somewhat of an outburst if it had been cut. Or maybe that's just my wishful thinking?

[kawaiiyume.livejournal.com]

I think the main reason was time line. From what I've heard the game starts at a point in which Da Qiao was already dead, and ends out before Jiang Wei came along, and when Xing Cai was too young to fight. Though while it seems they are trying to be more historically accurate in some areas, they are really failing in others.
Da Qiao doesn't bother me nearly as much as Jiang Wei or the Nanman who has seemed to be the one that's left the fans completely devastated.

Personally I've grown to love all the new designs, if I didn't just adore them to begin with. I'm really amused though with the suspicious similarity between Ling Tong and Gan Nings new DW6 designs and the ones from Koutetsu Sangokushi... Especially on Ling Tong's part. (sima yi's weapons aswell)

And gameplay wise, it looks amazing~! As I said while watching Zhou Yu's... he could be an old homeless guy in a pink sun dress and I would still buy the game for him fighting like that. I haven't seen all the characters in action yet, but I have some pretty strong faith in Koei with what I have seen so far. I even find myself more Calm about the lack of Tonfas on Sun Ce... which is a miracle. Koei hasn't let this fan down yet, so I have complete faith they won't this time around either.

I've become more excited over this game then I have about ANYTHING in years... to the import point definitely. And not just because I worry about Dub ruining it, but because I'll serious go insane waiting that long. (Because as I said with the looks with gameplay before... they could be played by monkeys and I wouldn't care at this point)

[chironstar.livejournal.com]

I'm really amused though with the suspicious similarity between Ling Tong and Gan Nings new DW6 designs and the ones from Koutetsu Sangokushi... Especially on Ling Tong's part. (sima yi's weapons aswell)

My first thought when I saw Ling Tong, Lu Xun, Gan Ning, and Sima Yi's weapons was: "I bet the Koei artists are fans of Koutetsu Sangokushi", LOL.